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		<title>Texto do marco civil alterado pela comunidade thackday</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nessas duas últimas semanas fizemos uma discussão para definir as contribuições da comunidade do thackday para o anteprojeto do marco civil da internet Brasileira.

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liane: Porque a proposta de supressão do art. 24?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="_mcePaste">Nessas duas últimas semanas fizemos uma discussão para definir as contribuições da comunidade do thackday para o anteprojeto do marco civil da internet Brasileira.</div>
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<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">Porque a proposta de supressão do art. 24?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">18:58</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">boa pergunta</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">18:58</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">na verdade eu copiei a ultima versão do marco, que suprimi e altera alguns artigos</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">18:59</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">então essa proposta nova já é de redação do MJ, não nossa</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:00</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">buenas, quem entrou agora e nunca usou o piratepad, favor se identificar.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:00</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">o texto é escrito colaborativamente em tempo real, minha idéia é a gente ir revisando artigo por artigo e discutindo o que aparecer de duvida/sugestão</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:08</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">opa, bem vindo poppi</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:09</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">Oi, mundo!</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:09</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">oi dani</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:09</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">vamos começar?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:09</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">oi pedro, oi todos.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:09</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">oi dani</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:10</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">Vamos começar</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:10</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">bótimo.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:11</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">estou seguindo as discussões nos comentários do marco tb, para não redundarmos muito</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:11</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">estou pronto</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:11</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">no art1. boa parte dos comentários é sobre a existencia do marco&#8230;</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:11</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">que &#8211; acho &#8211; é uma discussão valida, mas ultrapassada =P</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:12</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">eu ainda preferia que o marco tratasse mais de direitos do que de deveres, mas isso ia ser mudar boa parte da redação</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:12</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">tb acho. o negócio é fazer uma lei que preserve liberdades.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:13</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">e se fôssemos discutindo os capítulos e seções em bloco?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:14</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">pode ser tb poppi</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:15</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">por exemplo, o capítulo I tem uma separação entre registros de conexão e de serviços de internet</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:16</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">andreluizdoliveira: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">:*</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:16</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">sure, mas eu queria voltar ainda atrás e deixaria como príncipio a adoção de padrões abertos (internacionais)</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:19</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">legal</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:19</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">estou mexendo lá, vamos seguindo</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:19</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">cai e voltei</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:20</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">acesso pleno?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:20</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">andreluizdoliveira: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">buenas noches</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:20</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">livre acesso?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:20</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">buenas</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:20</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">andreluizdoliveira: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">onde estão editando no momento?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:20</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">estamos no art3</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:21</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">pleno e livre</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:21</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">livre e pleno</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:21</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">livre e pleno, gosto mais</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:21</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">livre e pleno acesso</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:22</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">hum?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:22</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">vrsmn: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">opa</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:22</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">nhé</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:22</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:23</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">acesso livre e pleno me parecia uma escala mais cabível (total subjetiva a análise)</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:24</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">bom, deixemos assim?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:24</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ok</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:24</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">sim, sim</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:25</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">tem tb uns comentarios na rede no sentido de acrescentar a participação politica nesse &#8216;inciso&#8217;</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:25</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">II &#8211; promover o acesso à informação, ao conhecimento e à participação na vida cultural e na condução dos assuntos públicos;</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:25</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">imo, podia virar um número só dele</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:26</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">Pode ser um novo IV</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:26</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">escreve ali!</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:26</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">(coloca entre o III e o IV antigos)</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:28</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mandei uma tentativa</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:28</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">e aí? não sei bem se é isso</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:28</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">(unnameds, coloquem aí na legenda quem são vocês)</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:28</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">gostei</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:29</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">acho que esta ok tb</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:29</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">podemos passar e voltar depois se alguem tiver um insight</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:29</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">certo</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:29</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">tem algiuns comentários sobre esse assunto no blog, estou caçando lá</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:30</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">art4 então?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:30</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">vamos</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:31</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">esse artigo é daqueles que pode mascarar coisa politica como tecnica</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:31</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">esse artigo tem uma estratégia</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:31</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">que pode ser questionada</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:31</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">manda lá poppi</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:31</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">a separação entre registros de conexão e de serviços de internet</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:31</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">na verdade tudo é log</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:31</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">(você discutiu esse no blog do marco, né?)</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:32</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">fato que tudo é log.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:32</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">eles fazem essa divisão pra poder tornar obrigatório o primeiro</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:32</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">até onde entendo, a idéia é que &#8217;serviço de Internet&#8217; seja usado para enquadrar sites colaborativos, p. ex? e blogs?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:33</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">que já são guardados pelos provedores de acesso</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:33</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">isso</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:33</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">serviço de internet é o log do apache dos servidores</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:33</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">a grosso modo</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:33</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">o logo que o google faz</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:33</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">log</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:33</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">sim</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:33</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">é log de serviços de internet</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:34</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">se formos adotar uma estratégia anti-log</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:34</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">essa separação proposta no artigo 4 não existe</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:34</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">bom, fica isso como nota mental? vamos seguir no texto e ver onde aparecem esses conceitos?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:35</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ok, melhor. ai vai dar pra entender o conjunto</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:35</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">vamos seguir porque eu não acho que o problema está nas descrições (mas pode ser que a gente tenha que voltar a elas pra consertar umas coisas)</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:36</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">5o?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:36</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">é que essas descrições estão amarradas com o que vai aparecer na seção III</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:36</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">vamos seguir sim.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:37</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">o 5o é um paragrafo-ayuasca</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:37</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">não parece dizer muito</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:38</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">foi feito pra amolecer os juízes das velhos tempos</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:38</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">hehehe</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:38</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">é</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:38</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">dos velhos tempos</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:38</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">vrsmn: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">hehe</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:38</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">nesse sentido eu adicionaria um livre ali</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:39</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">vrsmn: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">faz sentido</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:39</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">show!</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:39</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">blz, capII. art6.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:40</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">livre acesso?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:40</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">livre e pleno (pra manter a regra)</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:40</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">vrsmn: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">há a possibilidade de colocar uma lei que garanta o direito de 1mbps ao cidadão, como fizeram na Finlândia?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:40</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">existe essa discussão no marco</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:41</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">o prob. de colocar banda é que logo fica defasado</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:41</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">justo</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:41</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">1mbps já é defasado</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:41</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">principalmente com a velocidade em detalhes</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:41</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">vrsmn: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">1mbps é suficiente, HOJE</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:41</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">vrsmn: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">eu tenho 1mbps aqui <img src='http://marcocivil.esfera.mobi/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:41</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">1mb hoje quebra o gaio</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:41</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">eu tb <img src='http://marcocivil.esfera.mobi/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:42</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">não sei como isso é tratato em outros assuntos como saúde e educação&#8230; era legal ver como eles lidam com gratuidade</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:43</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">vrsmn: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">o art7 II é sobre traffic shaping?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:43</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">nos comentarios do marco a discussão é reincidente</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:43</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">Acho que o art 6 tem mais a ver com a disponibilização de um serviço público de acesso à internet (&#8220;lan-houses do governo&#8221;), ou não?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:43</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">então Liane, tem</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:44</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">a discussão que aparece nos comentarios do blog é se isso deve ser explicitado com coisas como &#8216;gratuidade de acesso&#8217;</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:44</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ou se basta você dizer que é um direito e partir dai para construir a base legal</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:45</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">como temos tambem sendo discutido o plano nacional de banda larga, acho que simplesmente definir isso como direito já é um grande avanço</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:45</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">É melhor especificar, uma vez que definir direitos dá margem a discussões judiciais diversas,</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:45</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas sei lá, a primeira vista (chuva de pensamentos) não acho estratégico criar uma lei que orienta o estado pro acesso mínimo ou pra alguma solução calcada nisso. é um dispositivo muito difícil de mudar.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:45</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane, alguma proposta de redação?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:45</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">que também leva a interpretações diferentes por juízes diferentes&#8230;</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:45</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">é fato</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:46</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">to pensando numa forma de não cair em inconstitucionalidade formal (comprometimento do orçamento do executivo)&#8230;</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:46</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">para mim a idéia do marco é definir direitos do cidadão na rede</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:46</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">então claro que o acesso a essa rede é ponto fundamental</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:47</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ok, é melhor se concentrar nisso</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:47</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">por isso joguei a idéia do pleno ali, que é meio varzea&#8230; mas ajuda a definir</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:47</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><em>unnamed</em>: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">stored of communication should be protected by court order, based on a showing of probable cause, regardless of the age of the communication, the means or status of its storage or the provider’s access to or use of the content in its business operations.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:48</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><em>unnamed</em>: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">hola, disculpa se me fue el mensaje que estaba escribiendo en borrador</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:48</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">unnamed, hola!</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:48</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">vrsmn: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">o art7 segundo item me chamou a atenção</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:48</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas do jeito que está, pode levar à interpretação de que não pode ser cobrado por ninguém.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:48</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">uai! acho ótimo!</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:48</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">minha preocupação é a contraria</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:48</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">vrsmn: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">com qualidade de serviço, se aplicaria ao traffic shaping?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:49</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">que alguem interprete que não temos que oferecer acesso gratuito quando for o caso</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:49</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">vrsmn, questão de ordem, vamos só fechar (ou marcar como pendente) a discusssão do 6 e pulamos pro 7</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:49</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">vrsmn: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ah, certo.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:50</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">acho que colocar detalhes nesse artigo pode fragilizar a lei</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:50</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">vai dar uma desculpa pros deputados derrubarem ela</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:50</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">Mas, pelas informação que vc tem, o governo tem condições de oferecer internet gratuita a todos?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:50</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><em>unnamed</em>: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">6 y proteccion de datos personales</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:50</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">liana, vamos seguir? fica lição de casa procê dar uma pensada em outra forma pra proposição?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:50</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><em>unnamed</em>: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mi derecho a controlar mi informacion personal no es claro.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:50</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane, esta sendo estutado o Plano Nacional de Banda Larga</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:51</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">vrsmn: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro, sobre acesso livre e pleno, isso não pode causar problemas com instituições que tem firewall que bloqueiam sites?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:51</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">se vc deixa muito abstrato, não &#8220;pega&#8221;, mas faço a lição de casa com prazer</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:51</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">Eu concordo com o Poppi, porque acho que temos considerar aí o contexto político nacional que está resolvendo essa questão em outras pontas.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:51</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">vrsmn, com alguma sorte tem <img src='http://marcocivil.esfera.mobi/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:51</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">vrsmn: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ali deixa aberto, nem sempre é viável para uma instituição liberar totalmente o acesso</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:51</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">Acho que devemos deixar em aberto, e depois voltamos (ou deixamos como tarefa)</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:51</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">Sobre o artigo 6, livre e pleno é suficiente. acho especificar nesse caso mais atrapalha que ajuda.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:51</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><em>unnamed</em>: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">dani, cierto pero dejas los &#8220;legal safeguards&#8221; al arbitrio.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:52</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">vrsmn: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">quero dizer, as máquinas são da empresa, a empresa paga pela manutenção dela. Se o usuário ficar visitando site de putaria e quebrar a máquina, é a instituição que vai ter que pagar</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:52</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">vrsmn, não acho que a redação englobe isso, mas adoraria que fosse o caso</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:52</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">cara, nós vamos bater várias vezes nua questão que vai fazer a gente voltar pro Art. 4</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:52</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">particularmente acho que as instituições precisam ficar menos frescas =)</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:53</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">art7!</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:53</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">vrsmn: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">haha, quem sabe isso possa funcionar como motivo para migrarem para linux <img src='http://marcocivil.esfera.mobi/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:53</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">então guarda. porque não tem definição de centro coletivo de acesso nessa lei. mas acho que a gente vê isso depois. vamos pro 7, né?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:53</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">vrsmn: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ok, vamos</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:54</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">no inciso I, (liane ajuda ae), tem gente no blog falando que não é bom especificar o tipo de investigação</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:54</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">pq envetuais questões civeis ficariam de for</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:54</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">fora</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:55</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">acho que podemos ignorar isso</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:55</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">concordo, mas temos que especicar q</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:55</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">para inquéritos civis</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:55</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">andreluizdoliveira: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">liane ta no gtalk?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:56</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">q é gtalk?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:56</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">andreluizdoliveira: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">gente to só no apoio moral aqui mas vamo que vamo&#8230;</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:56</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">andreluizdoliveira: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">liane: jabber</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:56</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">poppi, ignorar?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:56</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">vrsmn: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane, o gtalk é o chat do gmail</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:56</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">para focarmos em outras questões</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:56</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">não que não seja importante</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:57</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas isso foi falado até na aud. pública na câmara já.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:57</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">e ficou essa a redação?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:57</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ficou</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:57</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">k</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:57</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ahaha</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:58</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">minha proposta é focarmos nos pontos mais críticos</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:58</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">poppi, pode ser, mas eu realmente queria olhar com mais atenção o cojunto da obra&#8230; aproveitar os varios pares de olhos</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:59</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ok. fica só como recado. <img src='http://marcocivil.esfera.mobi/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:59</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><em>unnamed</em>: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">como funciona isso aqu?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:59</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">o bom da gente olhar tudo é distribuir uns &#8220;dentes&#8221; por essa lei. Ela já vai perder muito poder de fogo no Congresso, onde der pra reforçar, onde der pra incluir um &#8220;aberto e livre&#8221;, acho bom.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">19:59</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">art8</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:00</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">unnamed, mude seu nome (e sua cor) no box acima&#8230;</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:00</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">unnamed: coloca seu nome na legneda</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:00</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">fica o 7o I como esta: &#8220;XII &#8211; é inviolável o sigilo da correspondência e das comunicações telegráficas, de dados e das comunicações telefônicas, salvo, no último caso, por ordem judicial, nas hipóteses e na forma que a lei estabelecer para fins de investigação criminal ou instrução processual penal&#8221;</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:00</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">do art. 5 da cf</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:00</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">okok</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:00</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">gustavo.tirelli: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">pronto, arrumei</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:00</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">estamos discutindo ponto a ponto o texto ao lado. estamos agora no artigo 8</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:00</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">gustavo.tirelli: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">não estou familiarizado com isso aqui</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:01</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">sussa, Gustavo. A gente está conversando aqui no chat e sugerindo alterações no texto ao lado (ficam marcadas com a cor dos nossos nomes)</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:01</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">o paragrafo unico do art8 é tipo um ode ao Tor?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:01</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">gustavo.tirelli: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">certo, certo&#8230; vou dar uma lida com calma</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:01</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">gustavo.tirelli: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas vocês que estão mais engajados com a coisas toda</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:01</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">gustavo.tirelli: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">o que tá pegando de mais crucial?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:02</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">capitulo III? (é um dos que ta pegando, tirelli)</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:02</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">vrsmn: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro, é, ali no art8 parece garantir o direito de utilizar serviços como Tor e Freenet</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:02</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">vrsmn: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">acho ótimo <img src='http://marcocivil.esfera.mobi/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:02</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">hehe, boiei!</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:02</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">poppi, você que esmiuçou melhor esse capitulo. quer dar uma panoramica?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:03</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">Basicamente, são serviços que permitem que você navegue anônimo pela rede, Li.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:03</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">valeu!</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:03</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">vrsmn: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">torproject.org, para mais informações <img src='http://marcocivil.esfera.mobi/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:03</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">gustavo.tirelli: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">inseri algo valioso já! =]</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:04</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">onde</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:04</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">???</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:04</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">hum, a partir do 10 não é mais ordinal&#8230;</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:04</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">gustavo.tirelli: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">era só uma piada, faltava um º ao lado do Art. 10</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:04</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">gustavo.tirelli: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">hauhaua</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:04</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas valeu a intenção</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:04</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">hahahahahahaha</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:04</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">gustavo.tirelli: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">tosco</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:04</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">gustavo.tirelli: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">=)</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:04</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">opa</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:04</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">eu realmente queria mudar o art12 (linkado com o 9)</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:04</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">pô, vamos mudar as regras de redigir lei, então.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:05</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">administração técnica de tráfego é um jeito tucano de falar &#8216;traffic shapping&#8217;</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:05</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">vrsmn: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro, o art12 parece proibir o traffic shapping</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:05</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">sim isso tem que cair</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:05</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">putz</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:05</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">tem que tirar essa ressalva inteira e acabou</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:06</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">meu, não é possível que existe problema técnico NA INTERNET que se resolva com discriminação de pacote.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:06</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">isso é contra o princípio básico da rede, então é bode, tem que cortar.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:06</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">acho q isso se refere à degradação do tráfego</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:07</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">e não à discriminação</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:07</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas teria que deixar mais claro</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:07</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">vrsmn: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani, ali diz &#8220;nos termos do art 12&#8243;, e o art 12 diz que todos os pacotes devem ser tratados de forma isonômica</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:07</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">sim, diz</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:07</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas tem uma ressalva no fim</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:07</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas com uma big ressalva</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:07</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">vrsmn: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">parece inofensivel</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:07</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">&#8220;que não decorra de requisitos técnicos destinados a preservar a qualidade contratual do serviço&#8221;</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:07</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">vem de novo os requisitos técnicos</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:08</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">e claro que a ressalva técnica pode servir bem a um interesse político.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:08</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">bom, vamos no 12 e voltamos pro 10? hiperlink!</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:08</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">verdade..</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:08</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">tipo quando o Virtua te derruba porque você está usando rede P2P.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:09</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">gustavo.tirelli: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">voltei</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:09</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">voltamos pro 10 agora?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:09</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">gustavo.tirelli: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">toda vez que toca o telefone em casa o speedy cai</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:09</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">gustavo.tirelli: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">não vejo a hora de voltar pro virtua</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:09</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">haha, é a treva, hein?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:09</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">gustavo, compra um filtro de linha, r$1,99</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:10</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">filtro de linha ou microfiltro?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:10</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">gustavo.tirelli: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">pior que tem aqui</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:10</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">gustavo.tirelli: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas acho que não dá conta</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:10</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">gustavo.tirelli: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">a fiação interna é péssima</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:10</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">poppi, o art12 sem aquela ressalva resolve?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:10</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">como estava a discussão no marco?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:10</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">gustavo.tirelli: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas eu quero sair do speedy, zeus que me livre</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:10</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">foi isso mesmo.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:10</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">só tirar a ressalva</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:11</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">gustavo.tirelli: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">qual o artigo em voga agora?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:11</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">muita gente xiou por lá</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:11</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">gustavo.tirelli: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">pra ler tudo vai demorar um pouco</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:11</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">vrsmn: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">art12, tirelli</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:11</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">blz</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:11</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">voltando pro 10 então</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:11</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">Estamos no 10, pra quem estiver perdido, ok?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:12</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">acho o 10 simpatico (tem o hiperlink com o 18) MAS o paragrafo unico me deixa confuso =P</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:12</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">gustavo.tirelli: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ok, 10 então</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:12</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">e ai a gente vai bater lá em cima</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:12</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">nas definições</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:12</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">o 10 tem uma estratégia</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:12</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">que é resolver o problema do internacional</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:13</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">bota responsabilidade pros moderadores e ai o site da rússia tb se enquadra</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:13</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">gustavo.tirelli: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">site da russia?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:13</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">site hospedado fora do país</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:14</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">hum</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:15</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">além disso, o artigo fala em pacotes de dados</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:15</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">e acho que ele serve de novo lá embaixo pra tirar a responsabilidade do provedor e do moderador do site pelo conteúdo criado por terceiros</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:15</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">bom, mantem então?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:16</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">deixa eu só entender uma coisa</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:16</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">o paragrafo unico fala somente do art10?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:16</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">uma ordem judicial pode obrigar o moderador de um fórum a fiscalizar os usuários</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:16</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">é. ele se repete igualzinho quando aparece em outros dispositivos</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:16</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ou ele abrange toda seção I?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:17</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:17</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">não, só o 10</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:17</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">pior ainda a questão dos pacotes de dados</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:17</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">pq poppi?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:17</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">o moderador do fórum (pela redação) seria responsável por fiscalizar os pacotes de dados dos comentadores do fórum</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:17</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ahahaha</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:17</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ele NÃO tem <img src='http://marcocivil.esfera.mobi/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:17</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas é aí que a redação leva</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:17</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ué, ele fala &#8220;não tem a obrigação&#8221;, não?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:18</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">por ordem judicial sim</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:18</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">não tem a obrigação = talvez ele possa</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:18</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">sim, mas ele não tem condições!</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:18</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">salvo&#8230;.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:18</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">acho que esse parágrafo único ai é muito ruim.s</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:18</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">e aí? proposta?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:19</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">se fosse em retirada de conteúdo, vá lá.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:19</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas fiscalização prévia como é o caso</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:19</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">eu acho que ele se repete</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:19</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">não rola</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:19</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">estou procurando</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:19</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">saquei.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:19</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">pq se ele se repetir, rola tirar, né?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:19</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">não</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:19</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">pq é particular desse dispositivo</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:19</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">não entendi a discussão&#8230;</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:19</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">(digo, rola tirar, mas não tem nada a ver com repetir)</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:19</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ele aparece no artigo 23 novamente</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:20</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas aí é para toda a seção IV</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:20</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">liane, art10 diz que em caso de ordem judicial o provedor de acesso tem obrigação de fiscalizar a conexão</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:20</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">que é remoção e conteúdo</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:20</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">não é o de acesso pedro</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:20</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">é o de serviço aí.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:20</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">problema é que no paragrafo unico ele diz que dono de site é igual provedor</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:20</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ah, sim!</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:21</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">zapt!</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:21</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">yeah \o/</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:21</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">iarrrrul</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:22</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">entendeu, liane</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:22</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:22</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">vrsmn: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">vou jantar, volto depois. Abs</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:23</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">entendi, mas com certeza, se houver uma ordem judicial jpara o dono de um site retirar ou monitorar conteúdo, vai ter uma interpretação extendida.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:23</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mesmo q não esteja escrito</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:23</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas aí não é conteudo</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:23</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">o artigo fala em conteúdo dos pacotes de dados</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:23</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">e registros de acesso a serviços</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:23</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ah!!!!</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:24</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">a remoção de conteúdo tá na seção IV mais abaixo</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:24</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">perdoem a minha ignorância, hehe</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:24</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ahahaha. mas estou pensando aqui.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:24</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">veja</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:24</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mal aí</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:24</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">cai aqui</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:24</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">caímos e voltamos</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:24</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">olha essa pergunta</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:25</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">como um provedor de serviço de internet vai fiscalizar conteúdo de pacote de dados</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:25</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ele pode não ser o dono da infra</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:25</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">foi uma pergunta: como um provedor de serviço de internet vai fiscalizar conteúdo de pacote de dados?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:26</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">acho que tem que desmembrar esse artigo</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:26</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">andreluizdoliveira: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">meu, voces vao festejar aí?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:27</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">Nós estamos em Floripa, André</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:27</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">andreluizdoliveira: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">serio?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:27</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">andreluizdoliveira: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">vixe!</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:27</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">[off topic]</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:27</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">andreluizdoliveira: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">e eu aqui&#8230;</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:27</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">o pessoal da Casa está fazendo festa, apareça por lá</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:27</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">andreluizdoliveira: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">sim sim.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:27</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">Poppi, desculpa, me perdi</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:27</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">andreluizdoliveira: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas po, ate fiquei triste agora, queria falar com voces. conhecer o pedro&#8230;</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:27</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">andreluizdoliveira: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">enfim</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:27</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">festejar o que?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:27</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">andreluizdoliveira: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">chega de off-topic. desculpe gente.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:28</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">o culturadigital.br ganhou o prêmio Ars Eletronica</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:28</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">dani, olha que estou alterando a redação do 10</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:28</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">(que escreve deoutro jeito)</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:28</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">beelza, vou lá ver</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:28</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">Art 10 então, né&gt;</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:28</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">legal! fiquei sabendo.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:28</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">Poppi, antes de mexer nisso</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:28</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">sim</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:28</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">será que essas não são definições que deveriam morar no art 4?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:28</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">andré, to no gmail, como falo contigo?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:28</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane, ajuda a gente?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:29</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas estão lá.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:29</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">o serviço de internet é definido lá</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:30</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">hum peraí</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:30</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">qualquer coisa assim&#8230; :p</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:30</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">tá, depois a gente volta a isso então</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:31</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">é que esses parágrafos únicos incluindo &#8220;moderador&#8221; no mesmo saco do provedor me irritam.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:31</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas já superamos essa fase no 10 <img src='http://marcocivil.esfera.mobi/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:31</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">sorry, deixa eu ver como vc está mexendo</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:31</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">sim. são perigosos.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:31</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">acho que é bom inserir uma definição de moderador no 4o</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:32</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">lembrando q juristas podem confundir, hehe</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:32</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">verdade.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:32</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">(eu também. e de usuário. e de centro de acesso à internet &#8211; de telecentro até laboratório de escola. Vamos votlar a ele depois?)</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:32</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">pra isso precisariamos definir o que é moderador</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:33</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">heheheh</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:33</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">Poppi, vou mexer um pouquinho no seu texto, veja lá</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:33</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">podemos voltar depois, vamos fazendo uma lista de tudo o que precisa de definiçã</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:33</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">vai desde dono do site até moderador de comunidade do orkut</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:33</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">para impedir interpretações analógicas</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:34</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">estou olhando dani.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:34</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">vou colocar o lembrete lá no 4 liane</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:34</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">beleza, Liane, vc pode ir prestando atenção nisso em paralelo?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:34</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">boa, poppi</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:34</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">yes</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:35</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">onde vc está alterando dani?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:35</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">não entendi muito bem a mudança, poppi</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:35</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:35</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">desmembrando o 10</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:35</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">tira a responsabilidade do prov de serviços de &#8220;monitorar, filtrar, analisar ou fiscalizar o conteúdo dos pacotes de dados, tampouco de guardar registros de acesso a serviços de Internet&#8221;</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:35</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ok</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:35</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">quando acionado por ordem judicial</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:36</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">porque pode ser que ele não possa fazer isso</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:36</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">se eu hospedo meu blog numa infra que não é minha</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:36</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">haha, vamos colocar uma ressalva daquelas que eles adoram</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:36</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">posso ser enquadrado como fornecedor de serviços de internet</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:36</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">&#8217;salvo por limitações tecnicas&#8217;</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:37</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ai a gente vira o feitiçoi contra o feiticeiro =P</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:37</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas não tenho como monitorar pacotes</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:37</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ahahah. boa!</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:38</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">gente, vamos evitar apagar, só riscar, blz?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:38</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">blz, não estamos apagando nada do original</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:39</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">acho que dei umas apagadinhas qdo modifiquei o 10</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:39</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">vou só riscar, a partir de agora</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:39</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">hehehe</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:40</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">(alias alguem sabe o que fala a lei de interceptação?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:40</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">não íamos modificar o parágr único do 10?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:40</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">vamos</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:41</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">meu</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:41</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">interceptação? to buscando aqui</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:42</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">risquei</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:42</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">vamos tirar o parágrafo único e só mexer nas definições, não? pra evitar que quem não pode cumprir essa tarefa caia na ordem judicial</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:42</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ok</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:42</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">aí não tem que editar o 10.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:42</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">11?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:42</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">11</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:42</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas a limitação técnica é importante</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:42</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">deixemos a limitação tecnica</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:42</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">o 10 fala de coisas que provedor de serviços muitas vezes não tem acesso</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:43</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">k</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:43</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">então deixa a limitação lá</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:43</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">e beleuza</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:43</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">o 11 esta ok, me parece, o galho é na IV</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:44</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">tb acho. seguimos ou damos um jump pra IV</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:44</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:44</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">essa próxima subseção tb é tranqueira</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:44</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">LOG</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:45</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">blz, vamos lá</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:45</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">art13</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:46</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">loglog</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:46</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">o 13 amacia, pro 14 bater</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:46</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">limitação técnica comprovada, não seria melhor?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:46</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">pode ser</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:47</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">já q tb pode ser usada como desculpa para não colaboração num caso de crime</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:47</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">já inclui lá</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:47</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">qual a sugestão pro 14?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:47</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">13 e 14</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:47</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">o 14 fala do ambiente controlado e segurança que par amim está ok</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:47</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas sou contra obrigar</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:48</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">sou a favor de facultar</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:48</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">até onde eu entendi não é obrigado</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:48</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">é sim</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:48</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">(gente, no final eu quero propor um trabalha para elaboração de outra lei q vcs vão adorar)</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:48</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">andreluizdoliveira: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">liane: andreluizdoliveira@gmail.com</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:48</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">saquei</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:49</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">isso é registro de conexão, não é registro de acesso, copy?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:49</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">podemos replicar o texto do registro de serviçois?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:49</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">sim dani. e lá no 4 define o registro de conexão como ip origem, hora de inicio, hora de fim</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:50</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: uma boa</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:50</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">já tá na liguagem</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:51</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">boa</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:51</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ai tem que colocar um outro troço com a segunda parte, que acho importante</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:51</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">falta a segurnaça</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:51</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">segurança</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:51</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">se optar por fazê-lo</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:52</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">boa</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:54</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">vou colocar uma observação lá no alto pq em algum lugar do texto temos que deixar claro a possibilidade de ausência de dados cadastrais</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:54</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">esse debate rolou na rede</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:54</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">oi?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:54</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ah, você diz de criar novos artigos?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:55</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">é uma hipóteses</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:55</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">pq o texto não obriga o cadastro. mas tb não esclarece a possibilidade dessa modalidade</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:55</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">modalidade de acesso sem cadastro</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:55</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">meu, é disso que precisa mesmo</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:55</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">através de redes wifi abertas por exemplo</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:55</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">de clareza de que não é obrigatório.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:56</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">15?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:56</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">acho qu eé o lugar</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:56</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">pois fala duas vezes nos dados cadastrais</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:56</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">eu tb.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:57</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">essa redação teria que manter, pois protege os acessos com cadastro</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:57</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">da pra ter dois paragrafos unicos?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:57</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">o nosso de casa por exemplo</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:57</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">e porque abre espaço pra um regulamento que pode avacalhar a missão depois</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:57</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">dani: verdade</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:57</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">não, aí seria</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:57</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">hahaha, &#8220;parágrafo único&#8221; e &#8220;outro parágrafo único&#8221;</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:57</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">§1º e § 2º</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:58</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">hehe</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:58</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">só para não deixar quicando então, vamos voltar rapido no 13 e adicionar um hint disso?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:58</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">acho bão</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:59</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">eu gosto do 13</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">20:59</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">como está agora.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:00</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas ainda acho que essas tais de redes abertas, e outras modalidades de disponibilização de acesso (tipo lan house, telecentro, etc) vão precisar de definição do 4 (não necessariamente a mesma, mas seria bom)</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:00</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">just to mention <img src='http://marcocivil.esfera.mobi/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:01</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">teremos q definir logs e redes abertas</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:02</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">lá no art 4º tb?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:02</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">logs acho que já tem</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:02</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas olha só</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:02</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">texto do Samadeu tratando da questão</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:02</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;"><a href="http://www.trezentos.blog.br/?p=4546" target="_blank">http://www.trezentos.blog.br/?p=4546</a></span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:02</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">logs tem duas definições: registros de conexão e de serviços de internet</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:03</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas dá pra incluir um § 2º assim: por &#8220;rede aberta&#8221; entende-se &#8230;.&#8221;</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:03</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">o CADASTRO QUE VINCULA UM TERMINAL OU UM NÚMERO IP A UMA IDENTIDADE CIVIL SEJA UMA OPÇÃO E NÃO UMA OBRIGAÇÃO LEGAL.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:03</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">tirei do texto</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:05</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">poppi, vou refazer esse ponto.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:06</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">sugestão de redação</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:06</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:06</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">haha, estamos tentando <img src='http://marcocivil.esfera.mobi/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:06</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">escreve ali sua sugestão liane</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:07</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">Eu trocaria &#8220;É facultado&#8221; por &#8220;não é obrigatório&#8221;</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:08</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">bom, bom, melhor agora <img src='http://marcocivil.esfera.mobi/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:08</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">que tal?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:08</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">prefiro do que o 1 e 2.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:08</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">poppi?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:08</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">perai</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:09</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">melhor</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:09</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">gostei</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:09</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">resolve de maneira simples</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:09</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">praticamente um mashup do texto</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:09</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">hehehe</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:10</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro, eu não respondi antes sobre a lei de interceptação. se quiser dar uma olhada:<a href="http://www.planalto.gov.br/ccivil_03/LEIS/L9296.htm" target="_blank">http://www.planalto.gov.br/ccivil_03/LEIS/L9296.htm</a></span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:10</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">haha</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:11</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">voltamos ao 15?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:11</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">Eu e o Pedro tínhamos um deadline de ficar aqui até às 21h.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:11</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">15 §2º</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:12</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">eu posso ficar até as 22hs.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:12</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">a idéia é entregarmo um documento né</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:12</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">nós já tinhamos que ter saido, na verdade</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:12</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">é, acho que sim</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:12</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">não vamos postar isso no marco, correto?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:12</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">pô, também podemos</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:13</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">quebrar as nossas sugestões de redação</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:13</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">é que vai fechar domingo</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:13</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas acho que também precisamos de um documento</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:13</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">eu queria na verdade postar um documento e criar um usuario #thackay que fizesse varias propostas d ealteração</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:13</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">não!</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:13</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">não vai mais</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:13</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">eles prorrogaram</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:13</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">eu vi</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:13</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">bom</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:13</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas no texto da prorrogação</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:13</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ele fala que o site fecha domingo</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:13</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">bom, entregamos um doc então</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:13</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">bom, já q estamos no fim</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:14</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ele fala &#8220;do próximo domingo&#8221;</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:14</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">pode ser que entendi erra</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:14</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">queria combinar uma discussão para elaborar a lei</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:14</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">errado</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:14</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">isso</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:14</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">foi mal gente</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:14</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">e em oposição ao que era antes. então, deve ser o próximo próximo</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:14</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">vamos seguir pro 16?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:14</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">perfeito, certamente é isso</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:14</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">vamos continuar?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:14</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">qual o deadline?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:14</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">eba</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:14</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">Vamos seguir até um horário e fazemos uma rodada dois?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:14</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">21h30?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:14</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">blz</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:14</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">21h30</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:15</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">e ai marcamos a rodada 2</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:15</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">qual é a prioridade?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:15</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">remoção de conteúdo é tenso</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:15</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">(respondendo a liane)</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:16</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">eu não concordo com a supressão do art 24</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:16</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas não estamos no 16?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:16</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">a proposta veio do pessoal do MJ, liane</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:16</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas vamos lá, 16</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:16</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">(15 esta ok?)</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:17</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">não!</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:17</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">estamos no 16 porque o parágrafo único do 15 voltou a ser único, é isso?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:17</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">acho que sim, né?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:17</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ah sim</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:17</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">pq já colocamos mais acima</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:17</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">perfeito</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:17</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">16</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:18</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">o 16 me parece ok</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:19</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ok pra mim tb</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:19</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">eu colocaria só um dispositivo que não deixasse alterar ToS no meio do jogo</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:19</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ai tem uma questão que é sobre API</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:19</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">API?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:20</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">como que um usuário de API vai dar prévio consentimento?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:20</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">autorização expressa</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:20</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">não é por uso</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:20</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">na autorização vai ter &#8216;autoriza uso por api&#8217;</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:21</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">o que eu queria era proibir que os caras publicassem um outro ToS modificando as regras e que o usuário concordasse automaticamente, saca?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:21</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">importante</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:21</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">indeed</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:23</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">poppi, continuo não entendendo o problema</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:23</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">no termo vai ter: vou usar suas informações em mala direta</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:23</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">pq não pode ter: vou usar suas informações como uma API aberta e utilizavel por terceiros ?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:23</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">estou pensando num serviço que não exige cadastro préprio</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:23</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">prévio</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:23</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">tipo?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:23</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">tipo um gogole maps sem cadastro</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:24</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:24</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">se esse serviço tiver que fazer log de registro de acesso por motivos técnicos</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:24</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">e não tiver cadastro prévio</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:24</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ele não poderá fazer</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:25</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">porque somente no cadastro prévio é que o usuároi vai poder dar a autorização expressa para registros de acesso serviços de internet</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:25</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">como assim? o Google tem ToS</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:25</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">esse artigo, por querer proteger tanto, pode inviabilizar a inovação na rede</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:25</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ok. tem o tos mas sem o cadastro o usuário não tem onde clicar no &#8220;aceito&#8221;</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:26</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">não, não</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:26</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">pq o inciso I fala do usuário pedir as infos</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:26</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">e o II fala de publicação e distribuição a 3&#8230; de DADOS de acesso</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:26</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">olha &#8221; guarda de registros de acesso a serviços de Internet dependerá de autorização expressa do usuário&#8221;</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:26</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">onde o google maps vai precisar usar o IP da galera?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:27</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">olha só essa parte</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:27</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">no início</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:27</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">entendi</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:27</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">&#8220;A guarda de registros de acesso a serviços de Internet dependerá de autorização expressa do usuário</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:27</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ou esja,</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:27</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">seja</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:27</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">para o facebook guardar meus registros</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:27</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">vou ter que autorizar</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:27</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">até ai, acho bom</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:27</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas um serviço onde eu não sou conhecido</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:27</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">onde os ToS é só publicado</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:28</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">e onde a guarda de registros é uma condição técnica (técnica mesmo)</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:28</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">fica inviabilizado</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:31</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">(adoro &#8220;clara e explícita&#8221;)</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:31</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">(é tipo &#8220;clara e gema&#8221;)</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:31</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">(ok, parei.)</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:31</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ahahaha</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:32</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">17?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:32</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">17</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:32</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">vamos</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:33</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ok?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:33</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">18, já foi</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:33</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">19</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:33</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">19</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:33</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">19 e 20 me parecem ok</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:33</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">pra mim tb, já foi resolvido, né?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:34</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ok</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:34</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ok</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:34</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">21</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:34</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">21 ok? 22?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:34</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ok</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:35</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">22</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:35</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ei, essa não fui eu</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:35</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">hahahahaha</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:35</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">como assim!</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:35</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">tem um clone seu aqui?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:35</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">tem outra Liane</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:35</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">paulorcf: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">fui eu</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:35</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">hahahahahahahaha</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:35</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">paulorcf: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">venho na sessão <img src='http://marcocivil.esfera.mobi/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:36</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">me parece que a nova formulação esta boa</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:36</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">o vinte deveria incluir a possibilidade de indenização, nos temos da lei, no caso</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:36</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">e ai gente 23</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:36</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">23 tem o lance do moderador</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:36</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas na questãod e conteúdo eu acho válido</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:37</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">peraí</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:37</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">sim</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:37</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas que fique claro que o objetivo é resolver a questão da jurisdição internacional</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:37</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">to pensando na redação</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:38</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">eu sei q vcs avançaram nos artigos, mas o 20 me encucou</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:38</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ok, voltemos</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:38</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">voltemos</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:38</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">(eu tenho um problema com um pedaço do 23 que sumiu)</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:38</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">diga liane</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:39</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">só pode ser responsabilizado por descumprimento de ordem jud?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:39</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">putz, não sei se devemos mexer nesse sentido de incluir a possibilidade de indenização não, Li&#8230; é isso que você queria acrescentar?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:39</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">sim</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:39</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">e os danos causados antes?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:39</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: não sumiu</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:39</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">não são responsabilidade do provedor.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:39</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ou do dono do site, ou do blog</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:39</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">o cara pode ir atrás do autor original</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:40</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas eu não posso manter um site colaborativo correndo o risco de tomar um processo por conteudo de terceiros</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:40</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">vc tem alguma sugestão, Li?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:40</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">não sei se estou sacando qualé seu &#8220;encucamento&#8221;</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:40</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">lembre-se que esse artigo</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:40</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">não exlcui a possibilidade do dialogo</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:40</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">certo, entendi, mas isso podia ficar mais claro e gema</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:40</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">haha</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:40</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">hahahahaha, isso aí</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:40</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">ehehehe</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:41</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">poppi, é isso que eu sinto falta na verdade</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:41</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">eu achei bom que tiraram o take down notice</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:41</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas gostaria de ver o notice previsto em lei <img src='http://marcocivil.esfera.mobi/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:41</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">podia estar textualmente né?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:41</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">tem algum art</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:41</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">perai to procurando</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:41</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">o problema era o takedown</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:41</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">saca a hora que é facultado ao usuário clamar a responsa pelo conteudo?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:41</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">censura</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:41</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">sim sim</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:41</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">sei</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:42</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">por isso queria só manter o notice</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:42</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">pq do jeito que esta, o cara pode conseguir uma notificação judicail e o site vai lá e tira</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:42</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas o usuário as vezes tava afim de comprar a briga <img src='http://marcocivil.esfera.mobi/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:42</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas ai ele compra e manda voltar</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:42</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">não manda</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:43</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">não na nova redação</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:43</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">via justiça tb</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:43</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">paulorcf: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">Manda como?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:43</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">gente, to com uma pressão aqui pra ir embora, vai ter continuidade outra dia?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:43</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">liane, quero fazer outra rodada. só ver a data que todos possamos</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:43</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">talvez, até, aproveitando o poppi, podia ser na noite do conip</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:43</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">semi-presencial?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:43</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">é mesmo, fazemos na CCD</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:43</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">pra quem puder e pela web pra quem não puder</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:43</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">paulorcf: na justiça?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:44</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">o Conip é 26, na quarta</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:44</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">paulorcf: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">sim.. eu entendo..</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:44</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">poppi, o problema é o mesmo de sempre&#8230; os grandões tipo a veja vão conseguir tirar</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:44</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">eu topo na noite de quarta</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:44</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">paulorcf: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">Mas a gente não equilibra o jogo</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:44</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">os pequenos tipo eu não vão conseguir botar de volta</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:44</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">paulorcf: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">exatamente</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:44</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">paulorcf: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">O jogo precisa ser equilibrado com a presunção do conteúdo</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:44</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">entendi.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:44</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">paulorcf: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">e não retirar para depois discutir</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:45</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">e pense que a veja pode acionar tanto o provedor, quanto o dono do blog</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:45</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">putz, eu acho que precisamos mexer.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:45</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">o takedown notice anterior dava tempo para chegar no autor</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:45</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">era ruim, pq ia gerar uma maquina de takedown</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:45</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">por isso sou a favor de manter o notice</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:46</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">que é o modelo do chile</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:46</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">paulorcf: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">sem o takedown.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:46</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">rola uma ressalva na proposta nova?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:47</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">matutamos isso na lista?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:48</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">paulorcf: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">Acho melhor</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:49</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">blz</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:49</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">paulorcf: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro como o chile trata disso?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:49</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">vamos continuar pela e-groups? é isso?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:49</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">eu não sei ao certo, li rapidamente no estadão</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:49</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">estou tentando resgatar aqui</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:49</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas era um notice, com takedown judicial</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:49</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">paulorcf: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">Tá.. Vou dar uma olhada tb.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:50</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Liane: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">bjos a todos, espero ter ajudado alguma coisa!</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:50</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">bjos, Li! Obrigada por ter entrado</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:50</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">vamos nos articulando pela lista</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:50</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">e meu, vamos ver se rola essa 2a rodada dia 26</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:51</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">tchau Liane</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:51</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">valeu gente, gostei do encontro</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:51</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">valeu poppi</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:51</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">paulorcf: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">No Chile, onde lei similar foi elaborada mais recentemente, quem hospeda o conteúdo também notifica o autor, mas ele só tira a informação do ar com uma decisão judicial, explica Ivo Correa, diretor de relações governamentais do Google</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:52</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">paulorcf:</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><a href="http://www.arede.inf.br/inclusao/component/content/article/106-acontece/2805-proposta-de-regulacao-da-internet-da-mais-responsabilidade-a-provedores" target="_blank">http://www.arede.inf.br/inclusao/component/content/article/106-acontece/2805-proposta-de-regulacao-da-internet-da-mais-responsabilidade-a-provedores</a></span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:52</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">nós vamos continuando por aqui e fazemos a rodada dois, blz?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:52</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">paulorcf: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">Vou estudar a lei de lá para ver como foi colocado.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:52</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">que agora, nosso deadline já se foi</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #666666;">21:56</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">paulorcf: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">Fechamos por hj?</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="color: #666666;"><span style="font-size: medium;">21:57</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">estamos aqui matutando o fim</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="color: #666666;"><span style="font-size: medium;">22:07</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">cara, que rolo <img src='http://marcocivil.esfera.mobi/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="color: #666666;"><span style="font-size: medium;">22:11</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">caros&#8230; vamos encerrar aqui</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="color: #666666;"><span style="font-size: medium;">22:11</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Dani: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">continuamos nos articulando pela lista</span></span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Ricardo Poppi: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">creio que paramos no 17, confirma?</span></span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #666666;"><span style="font-size: medium;">21:08</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">opa</span></span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #666666;"><span style="font-size: medium;">21:09</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">sim, paramos no 17</span></span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #666666;"><span style="font-size: medium;">21:09</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">na verdade discutimos um pouco mais abaixo</span></span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #666666;"><span style="font-size: medium;">21:09</span></span><span style="font-size: medium;">pedro: </span><span style="font-size: medium;">mas faltou consolidar sugestões</span></span></span></div>
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		<title>Analisando o anteprojeto do marco civil</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[As visualizações postadas ontem aqui no observatório ainda são tentativas tímidas no sentido de perceber o quanto o texto dos comentários durante a fase 1 foi considerado no anteprojeto agora em debate.
Algumas das visualizações publicadas na época do fechamento da fase 1 podem ajudar nesse processo. A primeira é a tag cloud feita com o [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size:120%;">As visualizações postadas ontem aqui no observatório ainda são tentativas tímidas no sentido de perceber o quanto o <a href="http://manyeyes.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/datasets/comentarios-do-processo-marco-civi/versions/1">texto dos comentários</a> durante a <a href="http://culturadigital.br/marcocivil/consulta/">fase 1</a> foi considerado no <a href="http://culturadigital.br/marcocivil/debate/">anteprojeto agora em debate</a>.</p>
<p><span style="font-size:120%;">Algumas das visualizações publicadas na época do fechamento da fase 1 podem ajudar nesse processo. A primeira é a <a href="http://marcocivil.esfera.mobi/tag-cloud-do-texto-base-e-comentarios-do-marco-civil/">tag cloud</a> feita com o texto base e comentários do processo anterior de consulta. Podemos comparar <a href="http://marcocivil.esfera.mobi/tag-cloud-do-texto-base-e-comentarios-do-marco-civil/">a tag cloud do resultado da primeira fase</a> com a <a href="http://marcocivil.esfera.mobi/visualizacoes-do-texto-do-anteprojeto/">tag cloud da minuta do anteprojeto</a>, usando tanto a opção &#8220;1 word&#8221; quanto a opção &#8220;2 word&#8221;. Embora bem limitada, essa tarefa pode servir como preparação para vôos mais altos ou análises mais profundas.</p>
<a href="http://marcocivil.esfera.mobi/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/fase1e2_1word.jpg"><img src="http://marcocivil.esfera.mobi/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/fase1e2_1word-300x115.jpg" alt="Comparação fase 1 e 2 com &quot;1 word&quot;" title="Comparação fase 1 e 2 com &quot;1 word&quot;" width="690" height="265" class="size-medium wp-image-17" /></a><br />
<a href="http://marcocivil.esfera.mobi/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/fase1e2_2word.jpg"><img src="http://marcocivil.esfera.mobi/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/fase1e2_2word-300x115.jpg" alt="Comparação entre fase 1 e 2 com &quot;2 word&quot;" title="Comparação entre fase 1 e 2 com &quot;2 word&quot;" width="690" height="265" class="size-medium wp-image-18" /></a>
<p><span style="font-size:120%;">Outra tarefa possível é buscar ocorrências dos pontos mais polêmicos do anteprojeto no texto dos comentários. É o mesmo que perguntar: &#8220;Os caras inventaram isso ou realmente foi idéia dos comentadores da primeira fase?&#8221;. Os dois artigos que, de longe tem gerado mais debate até o momento, são o Artigo 14 &#8211; da gurada de logs de conexão por 6 meses &#8211; e o Artigo 20 &#8211; da remoção de conteúdo. Será que isso estava nos comentários?</p>
<p><span style="font-size:120%;">Vou analisar a guarda de logs. Utilizando a view <a href="http://marcocivil.esfera.mobi/3/">word tree</a> publicada aqui no blog na época do fechamento da consulta, podemos digitar a frase &#8220;guarda de logs&#8221;</p>
<a href="http://marcocivil.esfera.mobi/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/wordtree_fase1.png"><img src="http://marcocivil.esfera.mobi/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/wordtree_fase1-300x203.png" alt="Word Tree da fase 1 com texto &quot;guarda de logs&quot;" title="Word Tree da fase 1 com texto &quot;guarda de logs&quot;" width="600" height="406" class="size-medium wp-image-19" /></a>
<p><span style="font-size:120%;">O resultado não é gritante, exige debruçarmos cuidadosamente. Há desde comentários que abominam essa prática até comentários que entendem-na como necessária. Talvez possamos relacionar quantidade e tamanho das frases a favor e contra, para poder tirar alguma ciência disso. Por enquanto é simples especulação. Mudar a direção da análise, ou seja, alterando a opção de &#8220;start&#8221; para &#8220;end&#8221; no cabeçalho da view, nos leva a visualisar as frases que culminam no trecho proposto, &#8220;guarda de logs&#8221;, em vez das que começam, como estava no default &#8220;start&#8221;.</p>
<a href="http://marcocivil.esfera.mobi/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/wordtree_fase1_back.png"><img src="http://marcocivil.esfera.mobi/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/wordtree_fase1_back-300x201.png" alt="Word Tree fase 1 com texto &quot;guarda de logs&quot; sentido reverso" title="Word Tree fase 1 com texto &quot;guarda de logs&quot; sentido reverso" width="600" height="402" class="size-medium wp-image-20" /></a>
<p><span style="font-size:120%;">Embora o resultado ainda seja de difícil análise, tive a impressão que existem mais comentários a favor da regulamentação dos logs do que contrários. Isso refletiria um ponto a favor da minuta, que tenta regulamentar a guarda de logs por 6 meses.</p>
<p><span style="font-size:120%;">O mesmo podemos fazer para a &#8220;remoção de conteúdo&#8221;. Não farei isso aqui, mas aproveito para convidá-los ao debate, tanto na área de comentários desse blog quanto no <a href="http://manyeyes.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/topiccenters/ff93ce2050e211df9f79000255111976">tópico</a> que foi criado lá no mayeyes para esse fim.</p>
<p><span style="font-size:120%;">Tem alguma outra idéia de análise? Vá <a ref="http://manyeyes.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/topiccenters/ff93ce2050e211df9f79000255111976">ao tópico</a>, brinque com <a href="http://manyeyes.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/topiccenters/ff93ce2050e211df9f79000255111976/visualizations">as views</a> existentes, crie novas baseadas <a href="http://manyeyes.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/topiccenters/ff93ce2050e211df9f79000255111976/datasets">nos datasets</a> e poste isso tanto aqui quanto lá <a href="http://manyeyes.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/topiccenters/ff93ce2050e211df9f79000255111976">no tópico</a>. Mãos a obra gente!</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 02:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ricardopoppi</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Essa visualização é uma tag cloud simples. As palavras mais recorrentes aparecem maiores.

Essa visualização mostra o relacionamento entre as palavras. No campo logo abaixo da frase &#8220;or enter your own&#8221; basta colocar qual o relacionamento que pretende visualizar. Algumas dicas:

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Essa visualização é uma tag cloud simples. As palavras mais recorrentes aparecem maiores.</p>
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<p>Essa visualização mostra o relacionamento entre as palavras. No campo logo abaixo da frase &#8220;or enter your own&#8221; basta colocar qual o relacionamento que pretende visualizar. Algumas dicas:</p>
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<li>* * &#8211; Mostra só o relacionamento entre as palavras separadas por espaços</li>
<li>* e * &#8211; Mostra o relacionamento entre palavras ligadas por &#8220;e&#8221;</li>
<li>* da * &#8211; Mostra o relacionamento entre palvras ligadas por &#8220;da&#8221;</li>
<li>Crie o seu! Lembre-se que os * são obrigatórios.</li>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 23:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ricardopoppi</dc:creator>
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		<title>Tag cloud do texto base e comentarios do marco civil</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 23:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ricardopoppi</dc:creator>
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		<title>Word tree do texto inicial e dos comentários do marco civil</title>
		<link>http://marcocivil.esfera.mobi/3/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>danielabsilva</dc:creator>
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